I have 2 discussions boards for the first one I need you to answer the questions and the second one I need you to replay to 3 students I will give you their posts. I will give you how many sentences do you have to write
For the first discussion here are the instructions:
Re-read Genesis 1-2 looking for the names of God, any inconsistencies between the chapters, and the themes / messages of the chapters.
What do you notice? Are there differences between Ch. 1-2.
Now read the following articles discussing theories of how the first five books of the Bible were written:
here is a summary of the basic details of the different sources:
•J – Yahwist (950-850 BCE) – “YHWH”
•Anthropomorphic God, Mt. Sinai, Judah
•E – Elohist (850-800 BCE) – “Elohim”
•Non-anthropomorphic God, Horeb, Northern Israel
•D – Deuteronomist (650-621 BCE)
•Centralized Temple, Disobedience Punishment
•P – Priestly (550-400 BCE)
•Rationalist, genealogies, exilic perspective
In your post discuss:
1) what differences you noticed between Ch. 1 and 2 ( 4-6 sentences)
2) What ways does the Documentary hypothesis seem to explain these differences?(4-6 sentences)
3) Are you convinced by the documentary hypothesis?(4-6sentences)
For the second discussion here are the instructions:
1- Summarize a creation story- who are the main characters, what are the main events, what is the main message? “5-6 sentences”
2- How is this story different from the Biblical story? “5-6 sentences”
3- If you were going to adapt this story for a new audience, what would you change and why? “4-5 sentences”
4-compare the Kids version with the full version of Chapters 1 and 2 in your bible – what differences do you notice? What message do the illustrations send? “7-6 sentences” and I will upload to you the kids version. Please for bible use Bible gateway.com
Here is the first students post: (5-6 sentences)
I looked at the Inuit creation story. It’s about a Raven, who has the powers to be both a man and a bird, which creates the world. The main characters are: Raven, men, and women. There are animals that are created for food sources for men; sheep, fish, and birds – which are placed in difficult locations so that men would not kill and eat them all at once. The main events are the creation of water, mountains, and filling the earth with pea-pod plants. Man came from the pea-pod plants and Raven provided food; he also created women because men were lonely.
There are many differences with the Inuit creation story and the Biblical story. God is a Raven in the Inuit creation story. The world was created in five days in the Inuit creation story, where the Biblical story is six. God created man intentionally in the Biblical story, where man was created by accident in the Inuit version. Raven was surprised to see a man, who was “born” from the pea-pod plants, and he didn’t realize this would have happened.
If I were going to adapt this story for a new audience, I would change that Raven was surprised to see man. It doesn’t seem logical that Raven wouldn’t know that man would be created from the pea-pod plants if Raven is being portrayed as God. The story shows that he creates women, so why couldn’t he have created man to begin with?
The children’s version of the creation story almost seems a little more detailed. A lot more seemed to be shown and explained in my opinion. The illustrations show all of the different types of animals, Adam and Eve together looking at everything, and Adam and Eve leaving the Garden. I don’t believe the illustrations are actually sending a message really but they add to the words which allow for more of a visualization of the events being described.
Here is the second student post: (5-6sentences)
According to the Mayan creation story there were two gods: Tepeu (the maker) and Gucumatz (the feathered spirit). Whatever they thought came into being, so together they created the world. They needed beings there to look after what they created and to worship them… so they created animals. The animals could not praise them properly though so they decided to make men. The first race of men were made from wet clay and crumbled soon after. The second race were made from wood – they were stronger and could walk, talk, and multiply… but they had no minds and empty hearts. They could not praise their gods so the gods sent a flood to destroy them and ordered the animals to kill any survivors. The few who did manage to escape fled to the woods and became monkeys. The third race (4 men) were made from a white corn paste. These men were perfect and all-seeing. The gods noticed they were too perfect and could not be equals to them – thus they removed some of their vision. “After that they could only see things close to them, and they were no longer able to see though or above things they should not.” This weakened the beings understanding of the world. The gods then created 4 women and these people are the ancestors of all Quiche today.
How is this story different from the Biblical story?
In the Biblical story the Earth was created in 6 days – and was very detailed about what was created each day. Also, the Biblical story was one man and one woman, first try – there wasn’t numerous trials or races.
If you were going to adapt this story for a new audience, what would you change and why?
I would have the women created at the same time as the men – gender equality.
Also, compare the Kids version with the full version of Chapters 1 and 2 in your bible – what differences do you notice? What message do the illustrations send?
As far as the illustrations go… I’m pretty sure I see a dinasaur in the background?
“…but do not eat the fruit from that one tree in the middle of the garden” – I remember in class our discussion on the whole tree in the garden issue. In the children’s version it states God actually says ‘tree in the middle of the garden.’
Here is the third student post: (5-6 sentences)
I decided to study the “Norse” creation story which descends from ancient Norwegian culture. I found some parallels to the creating story in the book of Genesis, but many things also differ. For example, in the beginning of the story, we learn about Ginnungagap which is said to be “the great emptiness before there was a world” (“Norse Creation”). This is consistent with the opening line in the book of Genesis (minus the name “Ginnungagap”). However, the story then starts to talk about how a giant being, Ymir, emerges from melting ice alongside a cow, drinks the cow’s milk, grows larger, and eventually the cow licks away the entire mountains of ice and two more beings are created; A God and his Goddess wife (“Norse Creation”). The God and his Goddess then have a son named Bor, who then has a son named Odin who ultimately becomes the king of all gods (“Norse Creation”). Ymir, the original being, was considered cruel and therefore slewed by the other gods (“Norse Creation”). It is said that Ymir’s body formed the earth, blood became the sea, flesh became the land, bones formed the mountains, hair became the trees, and skull formed the sky (“Norse Creation”). If we were to compare this with the Hebrew and Christian bibles, we would assume that Odin is God and that a battle between the gods occurred before God created the earth. This is a significant departure from the bible because it draws heavily on polytheistic principles. Even though one god emerged as the creator, there is an important element of the story missing. Further into the story, Odin goes on to create the sun and moon, trees and plants, and eventually humans. He creates the first man, “Ask,” and the first woman, “Embla,” from mud. According to the story, he “found two fallen trees, an ash and an elm, and lifted them from the mud; breathed life into the beings, gave them reason and feelings, hearing and sight” (“Norse Creation”). There are obvious parallels to Adam and Eve embedded in this story, but what I find interesting is how descriptive this story is with the details of the humans he had created. We learn that God didn’t just create human beings; he gave them reason (understanding) and feelings (emotions). This differs a bit from the traditional creation story in the bible. Lastly, the most obvious difference in this story from the biblical creation story is how Ymir’s giant sisters took revenge on the gods who killed him by carving lines into the tree of Yggdrasil, which was the greatest tree of all that reached the depths of the earth and extended to the very top of the sky (“Norse Creation”). The sisters drew lines in the tree which represented human lives; representing the beginning and end of a human’s life (“Norse Creation”). They also made the cuts deep so that no human could ever be as powerful as the gods. According to the story, “the “spells were so powerful that not even Odin could do anything to change them” (“Norse Creation”). Yggdrasil clearly represents the tree of knowledge as depicted in the bible, but the obvious difference in the Norse story is the fact that the two sisters sought revenge and determined human fate. What is so bizarre to me is how Odin, the ruler and creator, could not stop them. In the bible, you get the feeling that even though Adam and Eve sinned, they were tempted by God, as to say that God had control over them and tempted them for a reason. In this story, you get the feeling that Odin is helpless. Could the sisters represent the serpent that tricked Eve into eating the fruit? I think one could make that argument.
Overall, I think this story is similar to the creation story in the book of Genesis. If I were going to adapt this story for a new audience, I think I would leave out the part about the cow. I didn’t see any relevance to the cow in this story aside from the fact that he licked away the ice from the mountain and provided Ymir with milk to grow tall. When I think of God, I think of an all-powerful being that wouldn’t need the assistance of a cow to form the earth. Other than that, I think the story has some great metaphors and symbolism that add to the creativity and overall mood.
As far as the children’s story is concerned, aside from the vivid illustration of the different animals and the language being more suited and understandable for kids, there is not a whole lot of difference in the content. One thing I did notice is that is says that God made vegetation before the sun, moon and stars. This is out of order but it doesn’t take away from the story in one bit. One might, however, wonder how trees and plants survived without sunlight?